As a Native American Indian, I often find myself offended by the recent popularity and "coolness" of paranormal investigations being held at our burial grounds and sacred lands. Even tho I am told that many "good" paranormal groups have their own homemade laws regarding this.....has anyone considered asking a Native American Culture Preservation Member or an Elder about the validity of their rules? There are certain practices in our culture and things "To Do" and things "NOT TO DO" when visiting each native burial grounds site.
Rules are NOT necessarily the same from one Indian tribe to another Indian tribe either. For example it is not permitted to "PROVOKE" spirits in any circumstances in our culture. Provoking spirits is considered rude and intolerable. Tromping around blindly without any plan of offerings and laughing at us is also rude.
Before going to any Native Indian Sacred site, learn the history and get permission first and be prepared to give the appropriate "offering" and if you are refused permission please abide by that decision and move on. There are many valid reasons you may receive a refusal. I'm sure some will feel "entitled" to do whatever they please but be forewarned by doing so....you set yourself up at getting what you seek and MORE.....so be prepared to suffer the consequences of your actions, whatever they may be.
Don't come crying on our shoulder if you do get something bad as you have obviously done something wrong and are at fault. Natives have long suffered at the hands of our government, so called well intentioned peoples, and by the result of broken treaty's. Our dead deserve the respect most of them NEVER got in life so first and foremost be respectful. We don't care about anyone's 5 minutes of fame.
Before going to our sites and grounds be prepared.....get permission.....be humble.......and give the appropriate offerings and responses. I suggest bringing along a tribesman if you are given permission if you can even get one to go with you. The recent popularity of paranormal investigating and the popularity of going to native Indian sites has once again opened some old and new wounds.....justifiably so. Thanks for your understanding and as us natives say passing the talking stick "I have spoken"...
I may add for those of you who have heard of a land recovery ceremony...which is done to "restore" the blance between nature and man...do not attempt it unless you know exactly what you are doing.......preferrably in consultation with a Native American advisor (medicine man etc) Done the wrong way it can result in a further imbalance and have the complete opposite results which may piss off the client whom u r trying to "help" Thanks
Great information Michelle and very sincere I to am part native american and believe we should not disturb the spirits of our native american ancestors. KUDOS to you
In response to a question I was recently asked regarding the Topic of paranormal Investigations at Native American Indian burial sites and sacred grounds...I was asked directly what my opinion was as to whether I thought these investigations should be legal or illegal. I responded that altho I try to keep my forums unbiased as to my personl feelings, rather bringing in the collective perspective of Native Peoples.......YES I do feel that paranormal investigations on Native American burial grounds and sacred lands should be made illegal and made punishable to the fullest extent of the law. And if a burial ground is accidently discovered, it should be reported and left untouched. Vandalism of these sites for pottery and artifacts should be illegal and punishable by both the police and our laws. Thanks
This is a very well thought out and delivered talk. Well over do I might add. I would like to add one thought to this at this time. My parents raised me to respect my elders. That meant ALL people older than my self. It is not meant for us to draw lines between races. We are to respect ALL elders. The lines were drawn meany years ago when Christopher Columbus sed he discovered America and then told his stories of how they had to fight the Indians to stay here. I believe the U.S. government needs to correct that great injustice given to the Native American so long ago. If any one would like to talk to me please E-Mail me at georgepatterson6972@ gmail.com
Thanks George... your comments were very much appreciated and I fully agree,,,,,your parents brought up a very well mannered son.....wish there were so many more like minded as yourself as to the respect of all our elders of every culture! I am glad u enjoyed my forum and I also felt it was long overdo and I hope I presented it with an unbiased yet collective and respectful approach. I am sure that most investigators do not go out intending on disrespecting sacred sites,...is from lack of knowledge that it happens I suppose. My purpose is to educate and I hope I succeded in some way, Hope to chat with you sometime. O'siyo!
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I do identify with what you have said concerning respecting the dead, especially the Native Americans. My Great grandmother was of that hertiage and had some skills that today might be called "Magic" when it came to the healing arts.
I also know what a bad ghost hunter looks like and acts like from personal experences in my own house.
Promises broken, name-calling, trying to provoke, yet THEY drive away, WE live here! "No thanks" to any more of that.
The ghost seen here since at least 1925 could be an American Indian woman from the descriptions of her as she appeared from a solid stone corner of the wine cellar, floated across the room, scaring out the prohibition drinkers time after time, until they decided to not come back! This story was told to me many times by the elderly citizens of this small town. My Great grandfather had been a bartender here for 7 years over a 100 years ago.
This area has always had a great number of Indian artifacts here, just 10 miles from the Miss. River. A University is said to have discovered some spear points near here thought to be possibly 20,000 years old! (about 40 years ago now)
Thanks James....your reply was very much appreciated and I feel so bad that your experience with "ghost hunting" was terrible....is why I probably wont allow it on my 11 acres of historic lands for that very reason. It actually sent chills up my spine to learn that provoking and name calling was performed. (is one reason I wrote the forum) I do not blame you at all for NOT letting it happen again.....as u are now what we call "The Keeper of that Site" and u protect it as you are doing. Bad apples tend to spoil it for the whole bunch eh?. Your writing of the Native Spirit and the artifacts was very interesting! Have u ever seen this native spirit? Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I especially loved the sharing of Oral Tradition, as we call it, of your Great Grandfather, elderly neighbor.. and the wine cellar experience. THANKS for passing it on! Hope to chat with you in the future.
Wow Donna I absolutely loved your reply......I could picture the wonderful hills and mounds as the breeze was blowing. Thank you and your family so much for the wonderful respect you have given to our sacred mounds. I pray they will remain undisturbed for many moons to come. Thanks so much for being one who doesnt disturb that peace or take artifacts and such. And especially thanks for being "The Keeper of those Hills" and may your respectful experiences be rewarded greatly. Is so refreshing to read ur reply as this kind of respect helps to heal those many wounds inflicted on our past and elders. Have a wonderful week. O'siyo
Hi Amanda..thanks for your input on my forum. No offense taken at all :) A lot to respond to and sorry I haven't been around till now to read it.
While Stephen King and many others are great "scarey authors", most of his stories don't lend much credibility as far as the true nature of sacred Indian burial grounds. Any burial ground, native or not, can be called "sacred" and our Native American burial sites are probably no more "powerful" than any other....is merely how we view them culturally, and thru time I suppose much folklore was attached to them. No evil power tho specifically attached to them...no more than any other. When anyone disrupts a burial ground or any sacred site.....well we potentially can get more than we came for so to speak.
More than 75% of the folks that come to me claim to be at least part Cherokee, and it can be very hard to validate those claims. There were over 500 different and autonomous native tribes at one time in the USA.....Cherokee roots can be extremely diluted at best although there were tribal roles kept that are available on the internet. Cherokee were mostly from Tennessee, North Carolina and eastern woodland areas and many were relocated to Oklahoma during the "Trail of Tears". Thanks and I hope that helps.
Thank you for posting this forum here on Haunted Society. It's very appreciated, and will help us to set standards of conduct in the field of paranormal investigations. I hope you'll share more of your insight in the future with more forums regarding this topic, because it's truly helpful tips and advice for ghost hunters and paranormal researchers to learn about the Native American Indian culture and expectations relating to ghost hunting in burial grounds and sacred sites.
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Hi Phillip and O'siyo to you! You are very welcome and if you would ever want to pursue some of the Native Indian perspective on paranormal investigations being held at indian burial grounds and sacred sites further, please feel free to contact me. I will get you in contact with tribal preservation elders who live on reservations for an interview. It would be a very enlightening and informative article for a paranormal journalist and would lend alot of insight to those interested in the field of paranormal investigations.....especially in regards to being sensitive to the cultural conduct and expectations which would lend the field much credibility.